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Good colour for a Sabre model
Namabiiru
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Posted: Sunday, June 08, 2014 - 08:34 PM GMT+7
There's an F-86 sitting right in front of my building at work. It's silver, but not a particularly shiny silver--looks a lot like spray paint--so likely it's not the original finish. If you need any photos let me know.

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Posted: Sunday, June 08, 2014 - 08:31 PM GMT+7
Here's another useful thread: http://aeroscale.kitmaker.net/modules.php?op=modload&name=SquawkBox&file=index&req=viewtopic&topic_id=222780
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Posted: Sunday, June 08, 2014 - 08:26 PM GMT+7
Hi Laurie,

Very happy my suggestion may be helpful!

Those foil'ed models are incredible! I think I may finally take the plunge and try foil.

Airbrushing - there are many books available about how-to. There are even some tutorials here on KitMaker; here's the first feature the site hosted: Airbrush Basics

The site has many talented and experienced airbrushers and there are many discussions about it. Instead of telling you to pick through 1,000s of threads, you could post a thread asking about it, or write me back and I will tell you of my 40-year experience with airbrushing.

How close are you to New South Wales? Here is a gentleman who is very good at airbrushing and may be of help, too:
http://railroadmodeling.kitmaker.net/user.php?op=userinfo&uname=lesrogers

I may not get to reply to you for a few days (traveling) but PM me (the message button below my name). We'll get this sorted out.
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Posted: Thursday, May 29, 2014 - 04:50 PM GMT+7
Thanks Fred and Tom. I am very interested in the RubnBuff and after doing a bit of googling it appears it produces an appearance that paint just cant reproduce. I have sent them an email asking for some technical information. I asked them whether it is best applied on top of a coat of grey/white primer or straight onto the plastic. Also I raised your concern Fred about the sealing. I imagine there is a risk of some chemical reaction with a lacquer but the acrylic sealers might be ok. I will let you know what they advise. Very interesting product. Hope it works as I associate that very shiny metallic look with the Sabres. Just look at this super sabre at the following link which was done with kitchen aluminium foil. Wow
http://www.oldmodelkits.com/blog/plasitc-model-kits-how-tos/foiling-plastic-and-resin-model-kits-for-realism-by-ken-friend/

I have just been doing a bit of googling about sealing this stuff. Seems a lot say no. But some say yes. One poster said he contacted the manufacturer and recommended sealing with Varathane Polyurethane. We dont have that in Australia but I imagine any polyurethane sealer would be the same. I think I will probably grab a spare bit of plastic and experiment with it before trying it on the model. Other post just said keep polishing it for weeks and the heat generated will seal the wax. In any event you dont hand these models very much and probably will be ok

I will have to get some airbrush skills. How do you get good at airbrushing. Is there a course or books on this or is it just practice?
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Posted: Thursday, May 29, 2014 - 08:53 AM GMT+7
If you want to go the camouflage route on an F86 Sabre both the British & West German air forces and maybe the rest of NATO were camouflaged in a dark green, dark grey with a light grey underside. My resources are limited to a generic book of aircraft markings. Others here on Aeroscale I'm sure will have much more info on the subject.
HTH
Tom
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Posted: Wednesday, May 28, 2014 - 11:23 PM GMT+7
Hi Laurie,

I am guessing you mean an F-86 Sabre?

Tamiya has a spray paint: AS-12 Spray Bare Metal Silver.


Do you have an airbrush? If not, brushing a bright silver can work but it is difficult to achieve without brush strokes showing.

Instead, consider the old method of making a shiny model: Rub n Buff.

http://www.amaco.com/shop/product-437-rub-39-n-buff-metallic-finishes.html

Only problem with RnB is that you can't touch it with bare hands after application. I recall some sealers are available, just don't know what.

If no airbrush, I guess I'd suggest the Tamiya spray or even a Testors silver spray. And if you have a model railroad shop close, Floquil and Scale Cote made spray cans of excellent paint, including silvers.


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Posted: Wednesday, May 28, 2014 - 10:38 PM GMT+7
My question is about painting a Sabre model. Most sabres I have seen are like shiny aluminium. In the gallery I noticed a couple of pictures of Sabres and some have this look. Since I posted I have learnt that there is a technique called foiling where they apply kitchen foil to the model. I am sure that is beyond me so I have given away the natural look of the Sabre. My next option is to get a colour that is the closest. Testors and Tamiya have a Chrome Silver colour which I think may be ok for this model. My question is therefore has anyone else used a colour that looked good on models like the Sabre.