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Geschützwagen VI 21cm Msr 18
German Geschutzwagen VI 21cm Msr 18 [sf]
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by: Jim Starkweather [ STAFF_JIM ]


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Trumpeter has caught paper-panzer fever of late it seems. Following the release of the E50 and E75 this new model dwarfs those in firepower at least. Enter the Geschützwagen VI 21cm Msr 18 [sf], which I believe is also referred to as the Tiger II Grille 21 w/ 210mm Mortar 18/1 L/31. There is not a lot of information about this design. As far as I can find out from perusing the web it did not reach production. So essentially this is another "What-If" model of what might have been turned out of Germany if the war had not thankfully ended when it did.

The Kit

The model most like shares the same 21cm Morser 18 gun recently reviewed here. And the vehicle body itself uses the same sprues from the Geschutzwagen Tiger 17cm K72 previewed by myself in September of 2007. So essentially we have a hybrid kit created from two recent releases. The rear hull stabilizer may be the only unique item added to this variant. I can't tell if the Grille 17 had such a thing but it may have.

Like the Grille 17 this version can also be shown in either a mounted gun or dismounted gun position. Also found on the primary hull pieces were rather deep and noticeable ejector marks in the hull plates. They would need filling and sanding for certain.

There is one photo-etch sheet included with the kit that is also identical to the one in the Grille 17 (item 0378). There are no decals for this kit and the only paint scheme provided is a factory primer one. Being that this required a full page color page, I am not sure it would have been wiser for Trumpeter to skip that on this one.

There is no information about the design/project included with the instructions. So if you want to learn more about the origins or history of the project you aren't going to find them here.

Conclusions

At around $100 retail ($140 list) this is not a small investment for the average modeler. However if you are a lover of all things German (or prototype), or perhaps you dream of building a diorama similar to the one on the box cover, this kit may be right up your alley. The kit does offer a lot of excellent details. Minus the injector marks, this kit would have been much higher regarded. However those alone will likely not stop the Grille enthusiast from making this monster.
SUMMARY
Jim takes a first-look at this paper-panzer behemouth from Trumpter.
  Scale: 1:35
  Mfg. ID: 01540
  Suggested Retail: $140
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  PUBLISHED: May 15, 2010
  NATIONALITY: Germany
NETWORK-WIDE AVERAGE RATINGS
  THIS REVIEWER: 89.91%
  MAKER/PUBLISHER: 84.63%

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About Jim Starkweather (staff_Jim)
FROM: CALIFORNIA, UNITED STATES

I started building models in 1971 when I was 6. My first model was a 1/32 P-40 Warhawk. Revell I believe. From there I moved onto the standard cars, Apollo spacecraft, and other kid orientated kits. I don't know what got me started on Armor. I must have seen a Monogram tank kit one day and said "Mom...

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Comments

That extra engineering would more than likely add to the cost as well. Ejector pins are a neccessity, and when you have large flat pieces, with details on both sides, one side is going to suffer. Waiting until it cools more, means the smaller pieces on the same sprue would be cold and possibly be damaged when being ejected. To put all the bigger pieces on the same sprue is not always possible, so the only other option is to break it down more, meaning more pieces. Im guessing its done like to limit the overall costs, as well as losing customers with too many parts/un-necessary assembly. On the plus side, they are not deep (because of size and quantity), so give them a generous brush with Mr. Surfacer 500 or some other putty, and sand them ... they should be easy enough to deal with. My biggest nit-pick with this kit is the one piece tracks. If I was considering buying this, Id also have to consider AM tracks. Thanks for the review and images Jim.
MAY 16, 2010 - 04:29 AM
Very nice, detailed review. You guys don't know how lucky we are that these are available to us to take a peak inside the box. - Jeff
MAY 16, 2010 - 07:40 AM
27cm
MAY 16, 2010 - 04:51 PM
I totally agree. I ordered this kit because of it's "new" packaging, and model number (VI). I thought this would gow well with the 21cm Morser I reviewed recently. I also have the original 17cm version, and spent some time yesterday comparing the two. The only difference, is between the two sprues that provide the barrel and breech parts. Otherwise, they are identical. Even the instructions are identical, except for where these parts are assembled. I was also dissapointed to learn that the 17cm and 21cm morser kits are also identical except for these same sprues. Each has several "not used" parts that are used in the other. Economy of scale - yes. Honesty?
MAY 16, 2010 - 05:09 PM
I just ordered this kit last Friday. I hate to think I am going to have to relive the pin mark nightmare the Geschutzwagen Tiger fur 17 cm Kanone 72 (Sf) kit was! A lot of the marks were near details (hatches and covers) so were tricky to deal with so not to damage or mar details. Easily 3/4 of them would have been visible. I managed to fill them in but it was a chore because there were just so many of them. Some were very deep. Definitely the worst case of that I have ever seen to date! I considered making some of the hull covers removable because it did have some fantastic engine and interior detail, but again, so many pin marks made me unsure if I wanted to bother! I have yet to finish that kit because it had some deformed parts. I tried to get replacements for it and was even willing to buy them. After a year of getting nowhere with Stevens International and with Trumpeter, filling out forms and sending emails I gave up. Then, one of my cats chewing up some things didn't help matters. I just broke down and ordered a second kit this morning to get the parts to complete it. (no luck asking in BST here) Fortunately I found one for $60 + shipping from China. Maybe this one will go better. @ Matan. I can set 3 Panzer Is end to end on the hull with only a bit of overhang! It is big! It took a LOT of paint, too!
MAY 16, 2010 - 06:30 PM
I can't hold my tongue any longer! What is it with this "paper panzer" crap? For everyone who claims to build their models to represent history, and I've seen so much great work done on this site, that to me this is equivalent to modeling the USS Enterprise from Star Trek, in terms of realism! ITS SCI-FI modeling!! It DIDN'T EXIST!!! Why waste time on these mythical creatures, build something real, like a unicorn, or little green man from Mars. Plus, great companies WASTING time, money, energy, and materials, to produce these kits. Seriously, I don't get it.
MAY 30, 2010 - 08:06 AM
Sorry Rod I cannot agree with you as the paper panzers are for the most part fun to build with no one having a dig about this that and the other would never have been done. If you think about this the market mist be there or no one would make the model in the first place. One last thing the chssis for this beast did excist and there are pictures of it with US troops stood on it giving an idea of just how big it was, I do not know if the gun had been made to fit it though.
JUN 13, 2010 - 02:24 AM
Congratulations Rod! You just managed to offend and insult a whole group of model builders with your intolerant and arrogant attitude. I won't be WASTING any more time and energy on this, I need to get back to my paper panzer crap. J workbench: E-75, E-50, SWS UHU, King Tiger 1946, Panther F, ..., Yes, my precious mythical vehicles THAT DIDN'T EXIST!
JUN 13, 2010 - 05:36 AM
@Grunt; denial, or not enough love why post this comment? why did you take time to even read a topic of something that you believe isn't real? or nor sure anymore? it's only a simple google away, the answer http://www.achtungpanzer.com/grille-series-cricket-series.htm took me 10 seconds
JUN 14, 2010 - 04:01 PM
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